Lex Fridman · 2026-06-30 · Lex Fridman (host), Anthony Kaldellis

The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire and the Byzantine Empire | Lex Fridman Podcast #498

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When Seljuk Turks migrated into Asia Minor, they caused an ecological transformation by turning agricultural land into pasturage.

"because when they move into Asia Minor, they're transforming or terraforming agricultural land into pasturage." (said at 5:13:35)

The speaker references a long-standing historiographical thesis arguing that the arrival of Seljuk Turks and Türkmen nomads in medieval Anatolia led to widespread "nomadization" and the conversion of Byzantine arable farmland into pastoral rangeland. While Türkmen pastoral groups did introduce extensive transhumant pastoralism (utilizing seasonal summer pastures or yaylaks in mountainous and frontier regions), palaeoecological and environmental archaeological analyses indicate that this did not result in a total or uniform transformation of agricultural land. High-resolution sediment and pollen records from Anatolian lakes (such as Nar Gölü in Cappadocia) demonstrate that cereal-based agriculture persisted alongside pastoralism through the Byzantine, Seljuk, and Ottoman periods rather than being displaced by pastureland.

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