Susan Magsamen
Susan Magsamen is a researcher whose work centers on neuroaesthetics, neuroscience, and public health. Her published research examines the impact of arts- and music-based interventions on mental health, trauma recovery, and youth well-being. She has also authored papers on translating neuroscience into educational practices and the effects of environmental settings on psychedelic therapies.
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Visual art, metaphor, and symbol are used clinically to build narrative and treat trauma and PTSD.
"the power of, uh, metaphor and symbol in helping to create, build narrative around trauma, which now is work that's being done quite regularly for PTSD and and trauma" (said at 0:03:42)
Clinical literature supports the claim that visual art, symbolism, and metaphors are used in clinical settings to help patients construct trauma narratives and reduce post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) symptoms. Art therapy interventions—including mask-making, montage painting, and self-narrative art therapy—are applied in outpatient and clinical programs for military veterans, war-affected children, and individuals with psychological trauma to aid in externalization, trauma exposure, narrative building, and symptom reduction.
- supports: 'Master My Demons': art therapy montage paintings by active-duty military service members … (Medical humanities 2019) · cited 85x in the literature
"the qualitative analyses of this study suggest that the group art therapy experiences fostered improvement in interpersonal relatedness, hopefulness and gratification for the service members in treatment, aiding in externalisation, progressive exposure and construction of a trauma narrative imperative for recovery." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - supports: The Effectiveness of Self-Narrative Art Therapy in Reducing (PTSD) Symptoms Among War-Affe… (Journal of child & adolescent trauma 2025) · cited 5x in the literature
"The results revealed that Self-Narrative Art-Therapy significantly contributed to reducing PTSD symptoms, including re-experiencing, avoidance, numbing, and arousal, in Syrian war-affected children aged 6 to 12, making it a viable psychological intervention." (abstract, results, passage verified)
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Aesthetic experiences and engaging with art promote myelination enhancements in neural pathways.
"the myelination um enhancements that happen, too. So, creating this ability for for neural pathways to work better is is such a protective um attribute for us." (said at 0:16:07)
Broad claims that aesthetic experiences and general engagement with art enhance neural pathway myelination extrapolate heavily from specialized skill-learning literature. While intensive motor or auditory training (such as instrument practice or music-cued motor learning) can induce white matter microstructural changes on diffusion tensor imaging consistent with activity-dependent myelination, long-term developmental studies find that baseline white matter myelination trajectories proceed primarily via natural maturation regardless of musical expertise. Furthermore, direct evidence demonstrating that passive aesthetic experiences or general art appreciation induce de novo myelination in humans is lacking.
- partial: Diffusion tensor MRI tractography reveals increased fractional anisotropy (FA) in arcuate … (Brain and cognition 2017) · cited 64x in the literature
"Results revealed that FA increased significantly in the right arcuate fasciculus of the Music group only, as hypothesised, with trends for AD to increase and RD to decrease, a pattern of results consistent with activity-dependent increases in myelination." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - contradicts: Neuroanatomical Disposition, Natural Development, and Training-Induced Plasticity of the H… (The Journal of neuroscience : the official journal of the Society for Neuroscience 2023) · cited 31x in the literature
"Maturational plasticity led to a continuous increase in white matter myelination and systematic changes of the auditory evoked P1-N1-P2 complex (decreasing latencies, synchronization effects between hemispheres, and amplitude changes) regardless of musical expertise." (abstract, results, passage verified)
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Research by Assal Habibi at the University of Southern California demonstrated that arts/music training alters brain structure and increases brain mass.
"we've also seen some beautiful work by Assal Habibi from University of Southern California looking at literally changing brain structure and brain mass." (said at 0:16:32)
Assal Habibi and colleagues at the University of Southern California (Brain and Creativity Institute) have conducted longitudinal neuroimaging studies tracking children enrolled in systematic music training compared to sports and non-training control groups. Their research demonstrated that childhood music training induces regional structural plasticity—specifically altering the trajectory of cortical thickness maturation in auditory association areas (such as the posterior superior temporal gyrus) and increasing fractional anisotropy in white matter tracts of the corpus callosum. However, the studies demonstrated localized cortical and microstructural neurodevelopmental changes rather than an increase in overall 'brain mass.'
- partial: Childhood Music Training Induces Change in Micro and Macroscopic Brain Structure: Results … (Cerebral cortex (New York, N.Y. : 1991) 2018) · cited 193x in the literature
"Two years later we observed that children in the music group showed (1) a different rate of cortical thickness maturation between the right and left posterior superior temporal gyrus, and (2) higher fractional anisotropy in the corpus callosum, specifically in the crossing pathways connecting superior frontal, sensory, and motor segments. We conclude that music training induces macro and microstructural brain changes in school-age children, and that those changes are not attributable to pre-existing biological traits." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - partial: Changes in auditory cortical thickness following music training in children: converging lo… (Brain structure & function 2020) · cited 21x in the literature
"We found that children in the music group showed a strong trend of lower rate of cortical thinning in the right posterior superior temporal gyrus. Together, our results provide evidence that music training induces structural brain changes in school-age children and that these changes are predominantly pronounced in the right auditory association areas." (abstract, results, passage verified)
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Music and sound effectively reduce amygdala activation in the brain.
"music and sound are are really very effective in reducing amygdala activation and I think in large part because it's so so immediate, right?" (said at 0:21:12)
Functional neuroimaging research shows that music and auditory stimuli do not simply or universally reduce amygdala activity. Instead, music robustly modulates and frequently activates the amygdala depending on acoustic features, hedonic valence, tension, and emotional content. Meta-analyses of fMRI studies demonstrate significant amygdala activation during both pleasant and unpleasant music processing, with unpleasant or dissonant music evoking strong amygdala responses. While soothing music and therapeutic sound interventions have been hypothesized or observed to help downregulate hyperactive stress circuits and amygdala reactivity in specific contexts (such as anxiety or trauma recovery), characterizing music and sound broadly as an immediate down-regulator of amygdala activation oversimplifies and overstates the bidirectional, valence-dependent engagement of the amygdala by auditory stimuli.
- contradicts: Investigating emotion with music: an fMRI study. (Human brain mapping 2006) · cited 1051x in the literature
"Unpleasant (permanently dissonant) music contrasted with pleasant (consonant) music showed activations of amygdala, hippocampus, parahippocampal gyrus, and temporal poles." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - context: A Neurobiological Framework for the Therapeutic Potential of Music and Sound Interventions… (International journal of environmental research and public health 2022) · cited 35x in the literature
"Despite the lack of music interventions for ICU survivors, music has the potential to help people suffering from PTSD by decreasing amygdala activity, improving hippocampal and prefrontal brain function, and balancing the HPA-axis." (abstract, conclusions, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - contradicts: On joy and sorrow: Neuroimaging meta-analyses of music-induced emotion. (Imaging neuroscience (Cambridge, Mass.) 2025) · cited 12x in the literature
"Our results revealed the activation of a range of cortical and subcortical regions, including the amygdala, insula, striatum, thalamus, hippocampus, anterior cingulate gyrus, and superior temporal gyrus. Moreover, our findings indicated that certain regions were specifically activated based on the hedonic valence and arousal of the stimuli. Particularly, whereas the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC), dorsal striatum, and thalamus were dependent on arousal effects, amygdala activation was dependent on hedonic valence." (abstract, results, passage verified)
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Poetry activates the same brain regions as music does.
"It's also interesting that um poetry activates the same part of the brain that music does. And so, and not just rhyming." (said at 0:32:40)
Neuroimaging studies demonstrate that poetry and music share overlapping neural circuitry, particularly within emotional and reward processing networks (such as primary reward pathways that mediate peak emotional responses and chills). However, poetry and music also rely on distinct neural networks: poetry strongly engages language-processing circuits (including left-hemisphere semantic and phonological networks), whereas music relies heavily on specialized auditory and tonal networks, and studies note distinct functional patterns within reward structures such as the nucleus accumbens.
Poetry activates sound-processing brain regions independently of semantic word comprehension to a greater degree than prose or fiction.
"They're really more around sound and the way like the difference between how we process sound like rock and stone, right? They're so highly visual and we see something very very different when we're using those that those different words and they resonate in a way that, you know, from a sound perspective, separate from understanding word meaning. And that happens through poetry more than it does through um fiction or creative nonfiction." (said at 0:33:40)
No published record matching the claim that poetry activates sound-processing brain regions independently of semantic word comprehension to a greater degree than fiction or prose was located; this does not prove the claim false.
While neuroimaging studies have examined neural responses to the sound of words (PMID: 29789504) and neural activation differences between reading poetry versus prose (PMID: 26409018, PMID: 30186210), none of these studies demonstrate that poetry specifically activates sound-processing auditory regions independently of semantic word meaning to a greater extent than fiction or prose.
James Pennebaker's expressive writing lowers cortisol levels.
"working with um James Pennebaker's work in expressive writing, not necessarily poetry although it could be, but getting an idea out of your head um onto paper that's causing you difficulty um does two things. One, it lowers cortisol" (said at 0:35:54)
Randomized controlled trials investigating James Pennebaker's expressive writing paradigm (and related written emotional disclosure interventions) have found that expressive writing attenuates cortisol release and physiological reactivity in response to acute psychological stress and trauma recall. Studies demonstrate that writing about emotionally challenging experiences or past failures buffers neuroendocrine (cortisol) responses compared to neutral writing conditions, though the effect primarily manifests as attenuated stress-induced cortisol reactivity rather than an unconditional reduction in basal cortisol.
- supports: Expressive writing and post-traumatic stress disorder: effects on trauma symptoms, mood st… (British journal of health psychology 2008) · cited 188x in the literature
"Finally, expressive writing greatly attenuated neuroendocrine (cortisol) responses to trauma-related memories." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - supports: Dispositional emotion coping styles and physiological responses to expressive writing. (British journal of health psychology 2013) · cited 12x in the literature
"In the second study, there was a significant difference in salivary cortisol concentrations between the two writing conditions regardless of the emotional coping grouping." (abstract, results, passage verified)
pubmedfull study (doi) - supports: Writing About Past Failures Attenuates Cortisol Responses and Sustained Attention Deficits… (Frontiers in behavioral neuroscience 2018) · cited 14x in the literature
"We found that when individuals were asked to write about a past failure before experiencing a stressor, they exhibited attenuated stress responses. Moreover, those who wrote about a past failure before being exposed to stress also exhibited better behavioral performance." (abstract, results, passage verified)
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Expressive writing reduces cognitive load.
"One, it lowers cortisol and it also lowers cognitive load." (said at 0:36:15)
Experimental studies demonstrate that expressive writing about stressors or worries reduces intrusive and avoidant thoughts, thereby freeing up working memory capacity and reducing cognitive load/distraction. Randomized experiments show that expressive writing allows individuals to 'offload' anxiety-related thoughts, which preserves working memory resources and prevents performance decrements under high-stress cognitive tasks.
The default mode network of the brain is activated during quiet rest, mind-wandering, and internally directed reflection rather than active external sensory or task processing.
"But the default mode network um goes to work when you're not creating, when you're not bringing that work in. It goes to work when you are quiet. So, you know, in this very fast-paced world we live in, we often don't just stop and let our brains process. And you know, you know how you sometimes you're in the shower and you have a really great idea and you're talking to yourself, it's because you're really just in that sort of in between space and and you know, we probably all have those moments where you're like, I just had a great idea. And you know, you're daydreaming, your mind wandering, you're figuring out what you like and don't like, you're really allowing the default mode network to come online to process all of that sort of sensorial information." (said at 0:42:48)
The default mode network (DMN) is a well-characterized large-scale brain network that consistently demonstrates heightened spontaneous activity and functional connectivity during passive resting states, mind-wandering, daydreaming, and internally focused cognitive processes (such as autobiographical memory retrieval and self-referential thought), while typically becoming deactivated or decoupled during externally directed, attention-demanding sensorimotor tasks.
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